Post by schlager7 on Jun 5, 2007 8:14:26 GMT -6
(With thanks to kd5mdk for bringing our attention to these points on Fencing Net.)
The French Fencing Federation has made the following proposals to the FIE:
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- The hit made just before, during and after a fall, is annulled.
- At sabre : delete « or immediately afterwards » in article t.75.3.b
Motivation : it gives too much subjectivity for the decision of the referee. The referees do not all have the same interpretation of « immediately ».
- At sabre : delete the 1st sentence of article t.75.5 and replace it by « the forward movement, the fleche and any forward movement with the rear foot crossing completely the front foot, is forbidden ». Motivation : the text seems more understandable for everybody.
- Delete the warning « simple corps à corps at foil and sabre ».
Motivation : if there is a corps à corps, it means that there is intention from one of the fencer (or even both). It is very difficult, not to say impossible, to judge the fault as « a simple corps à corps » or a « corps à corps to avoid a hit ». Furthermore, in order to simplify and standardise the rules which govern refereeing, one single warning for the « corps à corps » at all the weapons seems easier.
- In order to standardise refereeing, to award a yellow card when a fencer crosses the limit of the piste with one or both feet.
Motivation : this is an offence of combat and as all offences of combat of the first group : yellow card, then red card in case of repetition of offence.
- In the same spirit : annul all the hits of the fencer which crosses the limit of the piste with one or two feet and warning (yellow card). Motivation : as all the offences of combat, it seems unbelievable to win a match while the fencer commits an offence in crossing the limit of the piste with a foot.
The French Fencing Federation has made the following proposals to the FIE:
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- The hit made just before, during and after a fall, is annulled.
- At sabre : delete « or immediately afterwards » in article t.75.3.b
Motivation : it gives too much subjectivity for the decision of the referee. The referees do not all have the same interpretation of « immediately ».
- At sabre : delete the 1st sentence of article t.75.5 and replace it by « the forward movement, the fleche and any forward movement with the rear foot crossing completely the front foot, is forbidden ». Motivation : the text seems more understandable for everybody.
- Delete the warning « simple corps à corps at foil and sabre ».
Motivation : if there is a corps à corps, it means that there is intention from one of the fencer (or even both). It is very difficult, not to say impossible, to judge the fault as « a simple corps à corps » or a « corps à corps to avoid a hit ». Furthermore, in order to simplify and standardise the rules which govern refereeing, one single warning for the « corps à corps » at all the weapons seems easier.
- In order to standardise refereeing, to award a yellow card when a fencer crosses the limit of the piste with one or both feet.
Motivation : this is an offence of combat and as all offences of combat of the first group : yellow card, then red card in case of repetition of offence.
- In the same spirit : annul all the hits of the fencer which crosses the limit of the piste with one or two feet and warning (yellow card). Motivation : as all the offences of combat, it seems unbelievable to win a match while the fencer commits an offence in crossing the limit of the piste with a foot.