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Post by schlager7 on Sept 22, 2009 8:27:41 GMT -6
From 1934 Italy, a fencing competition for something called "The Sword Mussolini." Check out one of the later events in the clip: epees, no mask, no jacket, no shirt and what seems to be a judge checking for a mark on the arm. I wonder if they were using points d'arret.
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Post by nemo on Sept 22, 2009 9:25:47 GMT -6
That's just nuts.
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Post by schlager7 on Nov 30, 2009 10:17:03 GMT -6
Just FWIW, I have now acquired a snippet of footage from 1934 that contains, within the overall piece, 30-35 seconds of the 1922 foil bout between Lucien Gaudin and Aldo Nadi.
Things are busy these days and getting it to quality for YouTube will take a bit of time (that I don't have), but I hope to post it to my YouTube page and embed here by Christmas.
Happy Holidays!
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Post by nemo on Nov 30, 2009 13:06:58 GMT -6
I hope to post it to my YouTube page and embed here by Christmas. Happy Holidays! So why tell us NOW? That's just mean.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 1, 2009 20:22:38 GMT -6
Well, this won't make up for the delay, but I recall you are an epee fencer.
Try some epee (competitive, not a duel) circa 1911.
BTW, in a little over a year this footage will be 100 years old. We are entering the first phase of fencing history in which a competitive fencer can see how his/her counterpart a century removed fenced.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 9, 2009 8:44:32 GMT -6
As anyone checking out the "Frank Encounters" board can tell, I have spent most of the recent few days uploading videos of duels in France from 1911-1914.
I would like to add that, once I finish adding the current group of dueling clips, I have some fencing pieces from France in the 1920s and 1930s I will be adding.
They will include a clip of [[Lucien Gaudin]] and his wife taking lessons from their master, Gaudin and [[Roger Ducret]] demonstrating the coming en garde (Lucien Gaudin uses a French grip, Ducret and Italian and the differences in their backgrounds show in their gardes) and executing a lunge, there is some slo-mo of them fencing.
There are other clips, mostly noteworthy just for the time and place.
The last clip I will post, no later than Christmas, will contain the funeral of Lucien Gaudin in the 1930s with an insert of 30+ seconds from the 1922 bout between Gaudin and Aldo Nadi.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 19, 2009 0:39:20 GMT -6
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 20, 2009 21:55:41 GMT -6
1924. France vs Italy. Team Foil. Silent.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 21, 2009 23:06:57 GMT -6
1924. For some perspective...
Four years after this video, Gaudin won the gold medal in both men's foil and epee at the 1928 Olympics.
In 1924, the same year as this video, Ducret won gold in foil and silver in epee and sabre at the 1924 Olympics.
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Post by kon on Dec 22, 2009 0:24:35 GMT -6
1924. For some perspective... Four years after this video, Gaudin won the gold medal in both men's foil and epee at the 1928 Olympics. In 1924, the same year as this video, Ducret won gold in foil and silver in epee and sabre at the 1924 Olympics. It's an excellent video. Uh, is there a reason there's an image of what appears to be a chicken superimposed? K O'N
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 22, 2009 0:30:01 GMT -6
It's called a watermark.
It indicates I used a "freebie" version as opposed one without the chicken that would cost me 250 Euros.
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Post by Aldo N on Dec 22, 2009 18:53:53 GMT -6
I just don't care!
This is delightful! All my life I heard Gaudin's name mentioned as a great fencer of the pre-WWII years. Now, to be able to watch how he moved and reacted against another fencer of the same calibre...
It's great.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 24, 2009 8:14:24 GMT -6
1933. Silent. French. Footage of Roberte Gaudin and Lucien Gaudin training under Maitre Merignac.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 24, 2009 23:08:47 GMT -6
1934. French. Coverage of the funeral of Olympic fencer Lucien Gaudin. Included is 30+ seconds of footage from his bout with Aldo Nadi. In making this print they must have "flipped" the negative because Gaudin was well-known as a left-handed fencer.
So in this clip, Nadi is thus the "lefthanded" fencer in white pants and Gaudin the "righthanded" fencer in dark pants.
For some reason they added "crowd noise" to the 1922 (silent) fencing footage. My apologies for the watermark.
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Post by kon on Dec 25, 2009 0:17:10 GMT -6
It's called a watermark. It indicates I used a "freebie" version as opposed one without the chicken that would cost me 250 Euros. I should have figured that out. Excellent stuff, thanks again. K O'N
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Post by seguin on Dec 27, 2009 11:40:00 GMT -6
The fencer on the left, in white, (Nadi?) has an unusual guard. He keeps his weapon hand much further forward of his body than I am used to seeing, more like an epee fencer.
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Post by fox on Dec 28, 2009 8:26:33 GMT -6
I used to see this many years back. The en garde for the Italian style/school was extended further out than the French school.
IIRC the weapon arm was not only more extended but was held (left-right) in position between sixte and quarte.
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Post by schlager7 on Jan 14, 2010 23:03:17 GMT -6
1906 Sabre style vs new-fangled 1926 sabre styles...
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Post by bladesparks on Jan 15, 2010 9:53:00 GMT -6
I kinda like the 1906 part (probably because it was easier to follow).
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Post by schlager7 on Mar 3, 2010 19:03:43 GMT -6
Youth Fencing: 1935 Style
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