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Post by LongBlade on Nov 25, 2006 14:01:05 GMT -6
In no particular order, these are the squads remaining in the meet at the abrupt ending of SWIFA #2:
Foil: UTFC A UTFC B UNT A Tx State
Epee: Tx State TAMU Epee A UTSA Epee B UTFC Epee A
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Post by LongBlade on Nov 25, 2006 14:26:19 GMT -6
Nothing official yet, but we could hold it along with the Cat Fight in San Marcos on December 16 & 17.
The strips and equipment would already be down, the referees would already be there, and Texas State's club President, Amy Crawford, said they could do it.
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Post by LongBlade on Dec 1, 2006 23:19:32 GMT -6
Nothing official yet, but we could hold it along with the CatFight in San Marcos on December 16 & 17.
The strips and equipment would already be down, the referees would already be there, and Texas State's club President, Amy Crawford, said they could do it. O.K., It's official now. The Executive Committee met last night (11/30/06) and voted to hold the SWIFA 2.5 Epee and Foil events at Texas State on Saturday, 12/16/06 @ 3:00 P.M. Map & Directions to the Venue:ATTENTION! This tournament WILL NOT be held at Jowers Gym! It will be held in the Texas State University Student Recreation Center at the corner of Sessom Drive and Academy Street. For driving directions go to: www.maps.txstate.edu/driving_maps/reccenter_printer.htmlFree Parking:After turning onto Academy Street from Sessom Drive (Making the curve, actually), make the first left on Moore Street and left into the parking area behind (North side) the Student Recreation Center.
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Post by LongBlade on Dec 1, 2006 23:45:11 GMT -6
In no particular order, these are the squads remaining in the meet at the abrupt ending of SWIFA #2:Foil:UTFC A UTFC B UNT A Tx State Epee: Tx State TAMU Epee A UTSA Epee B UTFC Epee A The Executive Committee met last night (11/30/06) and voted that the squads remaining must include no less than 2 of the original 3 (or 4 with an alternate) squad members at the SWIFA #2.
Failure of a squad to participate or to meet the requirement of the minimum number of original members of the squad at the SWIFA #2 will forfeit the match and be awarded last place among the remaining squads, and in the event of a tie (if there is a double forfeiture), will be awarded final placement according to their indicators at the end of the pools.
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Post by LongBlade on Dec 7, 2006 2:33:44 GMT -6
Nothing official yet, but we could hold it along with the CatFight in San Marcos on December 16 & 17.
The strips and equipment would already be down, the referees would already be there, and Texas State's club President, Amy Crawford, said they could do it. O.K., It's official now. The Executive Committee met last night (11/30/06) and voted to hold the SWIFA 2.5 Epee and Foil events at Texas State on Saturday, 12/16/06 @ 3:00 P.M. We were trying to hold a SWIFA 2.5 as quickly and cheaply as possible, and around dead week, finals, and the end of the semester. I didn't hear any negatives before, but now several of the squads don't like that option. Too many teams won't be able to field a full squad to make it work and it would just be a sham ending to SWIFA #2 to hold it then.
The EC has been informally discussing an alternative date and came up with January 27, 2007 at 3:00 pm at Jowers. It's open and Rec Sports said SWIFA could have it for free, which certainly fits within our budget. Also, Texas State, ATAC, and the South Texas Division have all the nesessary equipment (which we could use for free) right there on sight, so it would only be a matter of throwing down a couple of strips and compensating the referees.
Now, I see that Jett says that U of H wants to move #3 up from February to... get this... January 27, 2007!
Well, I'm gonna throw it up in the air for suggestions. We have to finish 2.5 before we hold #3. Other than that, we are open to all suggestions. We need to hear your thoughts pretty quickly so we can schedule it sometime/where.
BTW: I'm in New Orleans for a seminar though Saturday. Please post it here and don't e-mail me since getting it through webmail has been problematic.
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Post by Parry Nine on Dec 7, 2006 10:20:10 GMT -6
Hmm...you've got me. Maybe the weekend before? Personally, I can't make it because that's when our Tech Open is. And I think that's when the Pouj is or some other large tournament.
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Post by schlager7 on Dec 7, 2006 13:55:41 GMT -6
Uhm, guys... There's a fairly frequently updated calendar here... CALENDAR
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 10, 2006 22:40:15 GMT -6
What is the final date for SWIFA 2.5?
Dan
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Post by LongBlade on Dec 11, 2006 0:12:33 GMT -6
What is the final date for SWIFA 2.5? Dan Technically, there should not be a SWIFA - ANYTHING.5! But... if we're gonna have it, we'll have it before #3. All the officers are on board with that. Why; you want to host it? We are open to any and all suggestions!
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 11, 2006 12:24:30 GMT -6
There is a precedence from professional sports for not finishing an event. Will it impact our credibility to say we have to move on with the season? Sports have rainouts. Does the event have to finish in order before the next SWIFA? Other sports will reschedule games later in the season to get everyone the requisite number. Two thoughts. I don't recall reading about this in our by-laws, is it covered? Can the EC give a quick ruling? A&M needs to know soon.
Dan
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 12:55:30 GMT -6
Why would something that nobody though as a thing that would happen, be in our by-laws. And yea we can give a quick ruling.... again.... but the delay this time is due to the complainers...we are waiting for more complaints on the new date..... got any? And it just seems right that it should be before swifa 3. you know just using nummerical logic ie....... 1 2 3 3.5 4 etc. thats all................ We could just scrap the whole thing and go with the seating of the final remaining people after pools. And then make that the format for what happens in this situation..That is the desperate dont wanna put up with this scenairo.
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 12:57:19 GMT -6
Yet, Nobody seems to like that way of handing the situation. It is a bit harsh.
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 11, 2006 13:43:00 GMT -6
I misspoke in my earlier post. This shouldn't be a by-laws issue, but rather an ops manual issue. The fact that is wasn't anticipated is of no consequence, we have the situation and need to resolve it quickly and decisively so that the schools can plan. The initial complaint was that the EC said the schools would be contacted and then put out a date instead. This date held issues for several schools and concerns were raised. Give us a date.
On the other issues you raised, I think any legitimate final placement has to be the results of DEs, and I see little issue with the order events are resolved in as long as the championships come last. By the way, I still feel the SWIFA championships should be held prior to USACFC's championship.
That said, the EC has to make a decision and stay with it.
Dan
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 15:57:58 GMT -6
The fact that is wasn't anticipated is of no consequence, we have the situation and need to resolve it quickly and decisively so that the schools can plan. Dan Yes, ---- I was responing to the comment that you said you didnt see it there. Basicly i was saying, of course you didnt.
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 16:03:45 GMT -6
The initial complaint was that the EC said the schools would be contacted and then put out a date instead. This date held issues for several schools and concerns were raised. Dan I wasnt aware that we gave a format for the way we would find a date. Sorry. We did speak to some schools, i guess ut and A&M were'nt included..
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 16:07:08 GMT -6
The EC has been informally discussing an alternative date and came up with January 27, 2007 at 3:00 pm at Jowers. It's open and Rec Sports said SWIFA could have it for free, which certainly fits within our budget. Also, Texas State, ATAC, and the South Texas Division have all the nesessary equipment (which we could use for free) right there on sight, so it would only be a matter of throwing down a couple of strips and compensating the referees. The other date is in this quote
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 11, 2006 16:13:08 GMT -6
So when is it?
Dan
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Post by Damaris on Dec 11, 2006 16:18:11 GMT -6
By the way, I still feel the SWIFA championships should be held prior to USACFC's championship. That said, the EC has to make a decision and stay with it. Dan We talked about that as soon as I got back from atlanta last summer when me and you had that conversation...... We agree.... Why, is the april 7th date after the USACFC's?
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 11, 2006 21:41:37 GMT -6
Yeah, USACFC Nationals is March 31-April 1. Their by-laws call for it to be held the first weekend in April.
Dan
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Post by DAMARIS on Dec 12, 2006 9:37:37 GMT -6
GGRRRRRRRR That is early........ and i couldnt find the date on there website........ Ok lets deal with first swifa 2.5 second getting a date on SWIFA 3 and then we will address that problem
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Post by Damaris on Dec 12, 2006 10:06:07 GMT -6
I HOPE US DOING SWIFA 2.5 TOO LATE AND INTO THE NEXT SEMESTER DOES AFFECT ANYONE WHO IS GRADUATING AND STILL ON THE SWIFA TEAM...... Which is one of the forgotten reasons that we were trying to do 2.5 asap.
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Post by Dan Gorman on Dec 12, 2006 11:18:50 GMT -6
There is a provision calling for only 2 of the original team members to be there. If the team had more than 1, then allow them to sub the number who have graduated.
Dan
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Post by Damaris on Dec 12, 2006 11:53:22 GMT -6
Yes, thats why we made it that flexible. Arn't we geniuses. just thinking of how i would feel if i wanted to finish my last swifa and couldnt.
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Post by Damaris on Dec 12, 2006 11:56:32 GMT -6
I did just talk to UTSA just now there gonna try and see if they can accomidate the SWIFA 4 date to be before the college national event..... I could have sworn i told them that it needed to be before collegaite natls... Mabey the thought i ment summer natl's
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Post by LongBlade on Dec 13, 2006 14:45:26 GMT -6
Based on the available dates that do not conflict with major tournaments and school Christmas break it appears that we will have to hold SWIFA 2.5 along with the SWIFA #3 at U of H on January 27, 2007.
I have already sent out an e-mail to all the club contacts about this matter to give them a heads up.
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