Jett
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Post by Jett on Feb 23, 2009 22:35:14 GMT -6
I personally hate the idea.
1) Price: we all know this already. Fencing is expensive enough already as is.
2) Convenience: Everyone has to ship their mask in to get a lame put on, stitch one on themselves or buy a new mask? BS.
3) Time: Foil is slow enough with constant off targets, weapon, body cord, and lame trouble. So now you add more lame area and a mask clip. It's like giving poison to a dying horse.
4) On a more personal note... I can't count the number of times my bib has saved me from getting hit :-)
But from a more professional point of view, if the FIE has already incorporated it, this isn't a matter the USFA can simply choose not to enforce (Like those ridiculous masks). It is going to have an impact on the way foil is fenced.
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Post by schlager7 on Sept 1, 2009 9:00:00 GMT -6
From the newly-remodeled FOC website:
As of the beginning of last season, the FIE has begun requiring foil fencers to wear a special mask with several inches of lame material sewn to the lower edge, thus making the valid target extend up to the prominences of the clavicles, as required by the FIE rules (Seniors – 2008-09; Juniors 2009-10).
The new FIE approved mask cannot currently be retrofitted or repaired, and will be fairly expensive. Further, there is no indication that these masks will not be subject to grounding of the mesh to the valid target, causing valid lights on the non-conductive bib and mesh.
Within the USFA there also appears to be concern with the safety issue of focusing our athlete’s attention on the relatively sensitive neck and throat area.
The High Performance Director has not seen a change in offensive or defensive coaching methodology because of the additional target area.
After evaluating this mask in international competition last season, the Rules Committee of the FOC has determined that there has been minimal impact on fencing bouts with the addition of this extended target. In entire World Cup competitions, very few points were scored on this area.
Given the expense that would be required of our already taxed athletes (and their families), the relatively limited impact on scoring, and no change in the fencers’ tactics, it is the recommendation of the FOC that the USFA not adopt the FIE rule requiring lame material on the foil bib.
Sincerely,
Bill Oliver Chair, FOC Rules Committee
Sam Cheris Chair, FOC
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Katman
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Post by Katman on Sept 9, 2009 20:43:38 GMT -6
Whew, I hope they listen.
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dhcjr
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Post by dhcjr on Nov 15, 2010 12:45:44 GMT -6
They only partially listened. Starting next season (2011-2012) qualifying events for international competitions will require the Foil Bib.
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