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Post by nemo on Apr 3, 2006 12:07:49 GMT -6
The USFCA and the USFA's Coaches College not only train fencing coaches but have ranked certifications. Is there somewhere on-line where one can see which fencing coaches carry what rankings or levels of accreditation?
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Post by DavidSierra on Apr 3, 2006 13:00:16 GMT -6
I belive the USFCA website has a list of moniteurs, prevots and masters...
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Post by schlager7 on Apr 3, 2006 13:43:25 GMT -6
I went to the USFCA site and looked through the directory. I counted exactly three members I recognized as being based in the Gulf Coast Division:
Andrey Geva Dan Gorman Jerry Dunaway
This was a membership list, not a certification list.
I found the following names that I recognized as coaches in the Gulf Coast Division on their certification list:
Jerry Dunaway - Prevot Sinclair Oubre - Moniteur
It reminded me a bit of 2002 when I checked the old spreadsheet the FOC used to keep on their site. Back then we only had 3 rated referees for our division. (Amusingly, Gorman and Dunaway made up 2/3 of that clique, as well!)
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Post by kd5mdk on Apr 4, 2006 14:53:46 GMT -6
I'm clearly blind, as I've looked all over the USFCA website and don't see a directory on it. Can anyone provide a direct link?
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Post by Dan Gorman on Apr 4, 2006 23:12:51 GMT -6
I should be listed as a moniteur on the USFCA site as well. As for the other coaches at Salle Mauro, Mauro trained in France and Istvan Marton trained and instructed in Hungary.
Dan
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Post by schlager7 on Apr 11, 2006 10:41:07 GMT -6
Dan, I do recall seeing you listed as a moniteur once upon a time. To be honest, wading through the many different listings on the USFCA site is a bit daunting and many have not been updated for awhile.
I'm going to try to compile a (reasonably) comprehensive listing of coach rankings for the rogue site... perhaps during our quiet Easter weekend.
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Post by fox on Apr 14, 2006 8:24:09 GMT -6
I'm clearly blind, as I've looked all over the USFCA website and don't see a directory on it. Can anyone provide a direct link? It is only accessible to USFCA members who log in.
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Post by swordmaster on Apr 26, 2006 13:27:16 GMT -6
I find it sad also that you can not find ratings on coaches who have been through the USFA Coaches College program in Colorado Springs. It is a shame since the USFA spends so much money on this program and once the coaches have acchieved a certain level, there is no mention of it any where. I know several coaches in the section who have gone to this training year after year, ataining higher and higher levels of certification with no recognition outside of the college. Maybe Alex, Elizabeth or Andrea could rectify this on the website that is devoted to the USFA Coaches College.
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Post by schlager7 on Jul 22, 2006 7:55:56 GMT -6
Well, it took me until mid-summer, but I started my list of all those who coach to one degree or another in the Gulf Coast Division. I have listed the individuals and the clubs where I know they teach to the best of my ability. I have tried to put such certifications and accreditations as I could find or have submitted to me. I included the staff of the Coastal Bend Fencing Society in Robstown, which is technically just inside the border of the South Texas Division because the serve students who live within the Gulf Coast Division. Gulf Coast CoachesIt is by no means definitive. I hope to get more information from some of those named and some of the clubs listed.
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Post by captain jon on Feb 27, 2007 18:05:36 GMT -6
I have tried to put such certifications and accreditations as I could find or have submitted to me. Here's one for ya: Andre Geva, Developmental Coach of the YEAR. How come we got no shout out for Andre? This should be front page news on the Gulf Coast website...instead, there is no mention whatsoever. Lets get the petty crap behind us and give some recognition when it's due. Andre is a fantastic youth coach, as his fencer's results show. (He is not so good with older, lousy-to-begin-with fencers, but I've moved on to someone who can help me, so that doesn't mattter) Congrats Andre!!! Coach of the YEAR!!!
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Post by DavidSierra on Feb 27, 2007 20:30:23 GMT -6
Just curious, but is there something in the water in Houston that makes people always think there is a conspriacy behind everything?
Why don't you write up an article and submit it to the webmaster, if you're that enthusiastic about it? Most webmaster's I know are busy people and generally welcome content...
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Post by schlager7 on Feb 27, 2007 23:19:30 GMT -6
Just curious, but is there something in the water in Houston that makes people always think there is a conspriacy behind everything?
Why don't you write up an article and submit it to the webmaster, if you're that enthusiastic about it? Most webmaster's I know are busy people and generally welcome content... Just FWIW, if captain jon writes up such a piece I'd give it a spot on the rogue site. I'll be the first to admit that between work, two small fencing clubs and tournaments most weekends, I don't always do the best job of keeping websites current. I encourage people to submit material. John Bone has let me use some his photos. He has the feel for fencing photography... I got to peek at some of what he took at the Battle on the Bayou - good stuff. Rod Fleming has written articles I have linked to, but otherwise, everyone is quiet. Heck, I've had fencers and coaches ask me to post such-and-such on this forum... when it is set up so they, themselves, can post what the like. On most of the boards here you do not even have to be a registered member to post (witness the Perez Hilton fun). Please, go for it, Jon!
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Post by katyblades on Mar 1, 2007 23:44:20 GMT -6
David,
It has been submitted to the Gulf Coast Division USFA websites by several parents, and several have asked me to submit it to the local USFA officers. I did not think it was worth the energy after I investigated the process. It is a USFA award, but the local division officers told these parents that they did not think it was appropriate for the USFA Gulf Coast Division website. The articles were supposedly already written.
I was trained by Nancy Andersen that the USFA officers existed to further the USFA and support the USFA in the area, and what better support that acknowledging a National USFA award on the local USFA website? She and I even joked that now that she is back in Texas she can come back and take over the division that she was the first USFA chairman of.
I do not have direct knowledge of the incident, because these parents came to me after being frustrated with the local officers. But when several parents come to me and have the same exact stories from different times then you have to take it with a grain a salt.
I also say congrats to Andrey. It makes me proud for my students to compete with his, and train with his. He has worked hard to raise the level of fencing in his club, and when he does that the entire division benefits if they desire.
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Post by schlager7 on Mar 2, 2007 7:53:58 GMT -6
Uhm, at the risk of repeating myself..... I encourage people to submit material. and for what little it is worth, it was also noted here.
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Post by schlager7 on Mar 2, 2007 8:16:55 GMT -6
David,
It has been submitted to the Gulf Coast Division USFA websites by several parents, and several have asked me to submit it to the local USFA officers. I did not think it was worth the energy after I investigated the process. That being.... All 4 or just one or two? Which ones? I repeat my previous offer. I so rarely get an offer of any articles that I would be overjoyed (literally, no sarcasm intended) to be able to read multiple submissions on the same topic and be able to choose the best of several. From what I hear and read, her administration was no more free of controversey than the last several. Division administration is what it is. I will presume the end of the last sentence was actually meant to mean the opposite of taking something with a grain of salt. No big deal. We all do that sort of thing while typing away. I know I do. On this we are in 100% agreement. I again state that I will happily provide a place for anyone who wants to work up a good piece.
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Post by katyblades on Mar 2, 2007 21:59:02 GMT -6
John,
A couple of quick points.
It is not up to the membership to force USFA promotion upon the USFA officers, but the USFA officers to promote the USFA fencing. Your site is great, but the USFA site is where it belongs.
I lived through Nancy Andersen's administration. She no longer was chairman only because she moved. I don't remember anyone running against her. I remember her telling me that if someone wanted the position and even nominated themselves she would step down. She had to move to Princeton to even be allowed to step down, and even then there was a void. I am not certain there was a lot of scandal in that admininistration.
When I was chairman, I also made the mistake of saying I was willing to do it. I had to pick and train a successor, plus talk him into the job, (sorry Glenn). I did not even have opposition because if I had I would have stepped down. People probably say my administration was scandal ridden also.
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