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Post by schlager7 on Oct 27, 2006 23:31:00 GMT -6
Okay, here is my nightmare scenario, or one of them, at least.
On the command, "Fence," Fencer X begins a rapid advance at Fencer Y. Fencer X is in tierce with his weapon hand snugly couched against his hip. The arm does not move at first.
Fencer Y also begins to advance, a few seconds after Fencer X. His weapon is also held in tierce, but out from the body.
Fencer Y begins extending his weapon arm first.
As they close, both attempt cuts. Both push their blades through the opponent's blade. Both land on valid target and set off colored lights.
Call?
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Post by Parry Nine on Oct 29, 2006 11:09:53 GMT -6
Throw out the touch, go get a beer.
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Post by Dan Gorman on Oct 29, 2006 15:22:11 GMT -6
What part of the blades are in contact? Same for both? One foible, one forte? In the latter case, the one making contact with the forte is likely making either a parry-riposte or a pries de fer. in the former case, the one initiating the attack is likely given control. Really though from the description, I'd throw the action out as unclear. Without the blade contact, if X starts rapidly and Y doesn't move until a few seconds later, attack X, touch -- one light. If Y is just noticeably later than X with the start but is extending first, Y's attack in X's preparation. Dan
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Post by LongBlade on Oct 29, 2006 17:57:53 GMT -6
Throw out the touch, go get a beer. I'm with Jay!
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Post by kd5mdk on Oct 30, 2006 6:49:01 GMT -6
I'm with Dan. Really, in that sort of situation you could justify either call. But you'd have to stick with it and call it the same way every time.
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Post by Parry Nine on Oct 30, 2006 11:08:03 GMT -6
Exactly what kd5mdk said. If the referee is making a strange call, it's easier as a fencer to deal with him or her if they're consistent. Great refereeing isn't always perfect, but it is consistent.
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