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Post by schlager7 on Jul 16, 2008 17:45:23 GMT -6
From Allen Evans Blog" George K dropped a small bombshell (not really noticed at the time) that in the next year, the FIE is going to rule that the attack in foil ends with the landing of the front foot." If there is someone more "in the know" I, for one, would appreciate a confirmation/denial/explanation.
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supox
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Post by supox on Jul 16, 2008 19:42:47 GMT -6
What the...? that sounds insane... that would rule out so many attacks. I really hope this is not true. Crossing the leg forward is understandable, but this... looks like the hopping, one-legged fencer will be quite happy
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Post by brynwulfr1 on Jul 16, 2008 19:54:49 GMT -6
I understand that fencing, in general, has experienced many changes. However that may be, one should consider the ramifications when arbitrarily changing rules and requirements. Mr. Roche would be well advised to consult w/ his Italian counterparts before he launches a rule change. Nontheless, this ruling, if official, will require a complete review of what constitutes fencing, both classical and Olympic. As the late Edwin R. Murrow often said, :Good night and good luck." Bryn Ralph
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Post by JEC on Jul 16, 2008 22:04:55 GMT -6
Although I fence all 3 weapons, there is a reason that I love Epee ... There is some, but relatively little controversy as compared to the other two weapons.
What the FIE is doing to the other weapons is just ...
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Post by Dan Gorman on Jul 16, 2008 22:43:44 GMT -6
I was at the seminar in question. As a clarification, the new rule is the same as the one in saber -- the attack with a lunge ends with the landing of the front foot. I would assume it also contains the old language that in the case of a fleche the attack ends with the landing of the rear foot or, in the case of a compound attack with the fleche, the landing of the front foot. Really, no one seemed too excited by the news. It's in-line with how foil has been called at national and international levels for a couple years. Some refs have even called it locally the last couple years to the chagrine of some.
Most every reputable coach I know has taught for years that the touch should arrive before the front foot lands anyway. It's changing that from good technique to a rule.
Dan
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Post by Liz M on Jul 28, 2008 22:04:45 GMT -6
looks like the hopping, one-legged fencer will be quite happy If this fencer is one-legged, doesn't that make the single leg both the front leg *and* the back leg? Come to think of it, will this have any effect on wheelchair fencing?
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Post by D on Jul 29, 2008 11:23:51 GMT -6
AAAAHHHH haa ha ha!!!!! i just have to laugh at this!!!!! Yea... This is how sabre is called.... so if you get hit in the middle of your cross step foilists,,,, The attack into your preparation lands!!!
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Post by archangel on Oct 8, 2008 15:08:04 GMT -6
it is kind of time for saber fencers to say "welcome to our world!"
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Post by katyblades on Oct 10, 2008 19:43:48 GMT -6
Amazing.
Actually George K. taught this to me at A&M in 84 at the Sectional Championships the first time I became a 5. There was no lower ranking at that time.
The front foot landing stopped your attack. You have to land on an advance, advance-lunge, lunge, advanced footwork combination. fleche or advance fleche. Anything longer was no longer an attack.
The interpretations changed but the basis for the rules never did.
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