Post by schlager7 on Nov 29, 2003 18:41:12 GMT -6
For those who do not wish to hassle with translator programs, below I've copied the results of my Google-translation of www.escrime-info.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=446:
FAST AND SEMI-official REPORT OF THE PRINCIPAL DECISIONS TAKEN WITH CONGERS OF LEIPZIG NOVEMBER 22, AND 23 2003
Number of countries present or represented: 86 Saturday and 88 Sunday.
Countries affiliated to FIE: 113
Confirmation of the place of the chts of the world seniors by teams with the foil ladies and the sabre ladies: New York 12, June 13, and 14 2004.
Championships of the world juniors 2005: Linz.
Championships of the world of the veterans 2005: Crems.
Championships of the world of the veterans 2006: Tampa.
Italy required a vote with secret bulletins concerning the proposals aiming at improving the sabre and the foil, here are the results:
1. Agreement on the reduction of the time of blocking [lockout time, to us]:
yes: 56
no: 28
If so, time of blocking
200 milliseconds: 19 votes
300 milliseconds: 32 votes
2. Increase in the time of blocking to the foil [debounce time, for us] to 15 milliseconds:
yes: 48
no: 33
3. Adoption of the Mangiarotti point [this is a new type of foil tip with a travel, like an epee tip]:
yes: 49
no: 39
4. Maximum curve of the foil blade to be 1 cm:
yes: 57
no: 27
5. Increase in the pressure on the foil point to 750 grams:
yes: 40
no: 37
6. Removal of the fleche from foil:
yes: 18
no: 59
7. Suppression of inversion of the shoulders as a fault [in other words, allow inverting the shoulders]:
yes: 51
no: 30
8. Utilisation of the sabre mask in foil:
yes: 18
no: 65
9. To return the flap of the valid mask to the foil [make the bib target in foil]:
yes: 29
no: 56
10.Suppression of l'enregistrement of the invalid keys (white lamps) [This was a vote to remove the white light and the halt of action for off-target hits in foil]:
yes: 38
no: 44
11. With the sabre, agreement on the reduction of the time of blocking [lockout time]of the lamps:
yes: 51
no: 33
12. If so, time of blocking of the lamps reduced to 120 milliseconds with the sabre:
yes: 50
no: 32
All these changes/adaptation will be tested during the season 2004/2005 among juniors in various competitions (possibly even all the competitions.)
Other business, here part of the various modifications with application to January 1, 2004 or September 2004.
- Two women will be present at the Executive Committee of the FIE like in the commissions and this, in order to put itself in conformity with the future rules of the CIO.
- For the tournaments of world cup by team, during the composition of table DE will be kept in a fixed way the teams classified of 1 to 4, one will draw lots by group of 2 the other teams.
Application: after the OJ 2004
- It ny will not have drawing of lots during the composition of table DE for the championships of the world by seniors teams.
Application: after the OJ 2004
- Reduction of the number of the individual competitions:
14 contests per weapon, is 9 world cups (4 in Europe, 2 in America, 2 in Asia, 1 in Africa) and 5 Grand Prix coupled with contests by team (2 in Europe and 1 in the three other continents).
The contests of world cup will receive a coefficient of 1, the Grand Prix of 2, and the championships of the world of 3.
6 results will be retained, in addition to the chts[?] world, and from these 6, not more than 3 could not be acquired on the same continent.
The participation in the Grand Prix will be restricted with a maximum of 8 fencers per weapon and nation and 12 fencers for the organizing country.
Application: after the OJ of 2004
- Carry forward of the fault "touches voluntarily carried apart from the valid surface" of the 1st group to the 2nd group, so that any infringement is penalized without warning and to remove the possibility, especially with epee, of employing a not-honest tactic.
Application: January 1, 2004
- the official language of FIE remainds French (18 against and a MAJORITE CRUSHING for!).
- On the level of the faults of the 1st group: it will not be possible any more to gain a match while having made a fault (for example "protection"), these faults of combat will be followed in table d'un (cancellation of the key possibly carried).
Application: January 1, 2004.
- fencers can use masks colored or comprised of drawings. However, these drawings and colors must be sent to the seat of FIE in Lausanne for approval.
Application: January 1, 2004
- the drawings of the national colors on the arm and/or the leg of the athletes are obligatory and must be identical for the fencers of a given federation, as well in the individual tests as by teams (from the very start of the tests for the championships of the world seniors, juniors and juniors, starting from the table of 64 for the competitions of world cup seniors. These drawings are to be sent to FIE for homologation.
In the event of behaviour not-in conformity with the drawings sent to FIE, a red card will be inflicted with the fencer concerned at the time of each entry on the track during the competition (except case of absolute necessity).
Application: January 1, 2004
Note - the translation entered the word "TRUSTS" in all caps in places where the most logical term appeared to be "FIE." I am, however, only guessing on that one.
FAST AND SEMI-official REPORT OF THE PRINCIPAL DECISIONS TAKEN WITH CONGERS OF LEIPZIG NOVEMBER 22, AND 23 2003
Number of countries present or represented: 86 Saturday and 88 Sunday.
Countries affiliated to FIE: 113
Confirmation of the place of the chts of the world seniors by teams with the foil ladies and the sabre ladies: New York 12, June 13, and 14 2004.
Championships of the world juniors 2005: Linz.
Championships of the world of the veterans 2005: Crems.
Championships of the world of the veterans 2006: Tampa.
Italy required a vote with secret bulletins concerning the proposals aiming at improving the sabre and the foil, here are the results:
1. Agreement on the reduction of the time of blocking [lockout time, to us]:
yes: 56
no: 28
If so, time of blocking
200 milliseconds: 19 votes
300 milliseconds: 32 votes
2. Increase in the time of blocking to the foil [debounce time, for us] to 15 milliseconds:
yes: 48
no: 33
3. Adoption of the Mangiarotti point [this is a new type of foil tip with a travel, like an epee tip]:
yes: 49
no: 39
4. Maximum curve of the foil blade to be 1 cm:
yes: 57
no: 27
5. Increase in the pressure on the foil point to 750 grams:
yes: 40
no: 37
6. Removal of the fleche from foil:
yes: 18
no: 59
7. Suppression of inversion of the shoulders as a fault [in other words, allow inverting the shoulders]:
yes: 51
no: 30
8. Utilisation of the sabre mask in foil:
yes: 18
no: 65
9. To return the flap of the valid mask to the foil [make the bib target in foil]:
yes: 29
no: 56
10.Suppression of l'enregistrement of the invalid keys (white lamps) [This was a vote to remove the white light and the halt of action for off-target hits in foil]:
yes: 38
no: 44
11. With the sabre, agreement on the reduction of the time of blocking [lockout time]of the lamps:
yes: 51
no: 33
12. If so, time of blocking of the lamps reduced to 120 milliseconds with the sabre:
yes: 50
no: 32
All these changes/adaptation will be tested during the season 2004/2005 among juniors in various competitions (possibly even all the competitions.)
Other business, here part of the various modifications with application to January 1, 2004 or September 2004.
- Two women will be present at the Executive Committee of the FIE like in the commissions and this, in order to put itself in conformity with the future rules of the CIO.
- For the tournaments of world cup by team, during the composition of table DE will be kept in a fixed way the teams classified of 1 to 4, one will draw lots by group of 2 the other teams.
Application: after the OJ 2004
- It ny will not have drawing of lots during the composition of table DE for the championships of the world by seniors teams.
Application: after the OJ 2004
- Reduction of the number of the individual competitions:
14 contests per weapon, is 9 world cups (4 in Europe, 2 in America, 2 in Asia, 1 in Africa) and 5 Grand Prix coupled with contests by team (2 in Europe and 1 in the three other continents).
The contests of world cup will receive a coefficient of 1, the Grand Prix of 2, and the championships of the world of 3.
6 results will be retained, in addition to the chts[?] world, and from these 6, not more than 3 could not be acquired on the same continent.
The participation in the Grand Prix will be restricted with a maximum of 8 fencers per weapon and nation and 12 fencers for the organizing country.
Application: after the OJ of 2004
- Carry forward of the fault "touches voluntarily carried apart from the valid surface" of the 1st group to the 2nd group, so that any infringement is penalized without warning and to remove the possibility, especially with epee, of employing a not-honest tactic.
Application: January 1, 2004
- the official language of FIE remainds French (18 against and a MAJORITE CRUSHING for!).
- On the level of the faults of the 1st group: it will not be possible any more to gain a match while having made a fault (for example "protection"), these faults of combat will be followed in table d'un (cancellation of the key possibly carried).
Application: January 1, 2004.
- fencers can use masks colored or comprised of drawings. However, these drawings and colors must be sent to the seat of FIE in Lausanne for approval.
Application: January 1, 2004
- the drawings of the national colors on the arm and/or the leg of the athletes are obligatory and must be identical for the fencers of a given federation, as well in the individual tests as by teams (from the very start of the tests for the championships of the world seniors, juniors and juniors, starting from the table of 64 for the competitions of world cup seniors. These drawings are to be sent to FIE for homologation.
In the event of behaviour not-in conformity with the drawings sent to FIE, a red card will be inflicted with the fencer concerned at the time of each entry on the track during the competition (except case of absolute necessity).
Application: January 1, 2004
Note - the translation entered the word "TRUSTS" in all caps in places where the most logical term appeared to be "FIE." I am, however, only guessing on that one.