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Post by schlager7 on May 18, 2005 14:23:39 GMT -6
I know this site is primarily used by competitive/sport fencers, but I thought it would be interesting to poll our registered members to see who has given other types of fencing a try.
If you engage in (or have tried) more than one of the options above, pick the one you did the most or enjoyed most.
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Post by Fleming on May 19, 2005 13:01:11 GMT -6
Rapier/dagger, broadsword, stage combat. Now, what is the distinction between competitive and classical fencing? Since I don't fence with Mozart or Ludwig (not a lot of action there) but I do fence competitively with an Italian grip, where do I lie the the spectrum?
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Post by August Skopik on May 19, 2005 15:31:33 GMT -6
I was trained by Claude Caux, and his stage movement class was fencing. Regardless, I participated in several of his stage movement classes and stage fencing. I choreographed fencing scenes for local theater groups and high schools. I also performed on stage, in nightclubs with Tim Glass and other public areas for fencing demos in more of a choreographed manner. (Tim and I both jumped into the crowds at a nightclub fencing saber, even though he was an epeeist and I was a foilist at the time).
Tim and I also fenced with the SCA folks at the Rennaissance Festival, but Tim was more brutal about it than I was. I also participated a little in college, but too many people made up the scores and I got frustrated.
I chased a man down the road for about a mile and 1/2 when he was attempting to break into our apartment and he was following my wife. I have a broadsword that was given to me by the Aggies for building the club after all of our equipment was taken by the PE folks, and I did not get close enough for a full swing. I wanted to try out broadsword that night. He broke a wooden gate on a fence running away. I hope this counts, because I attempted to get a little broadsword in that night but had an unwilling participant.
Fleming, I understand from your post you still fence with the Italian grips. I don't even know where they are sold any more. Craig Kraemer's coach in New Orleans would not let him fence with any other grip when he began. There are the purists out there.
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Post by schlager7 on May 20, 2005 7:43:16 GMT -6
At the Space City Rendez-Vous I went by the Swordmasters vendor booth and noted that Scott Harley does carry an electric Italian grip foil.
Basically, and this does poor service to both, think of classical fencing as preparation for a frank encounter with sharp versions of our three weapons (smallsword, epee du combat and the duelling sabre) and sport fencing as just trying to get 5 (15) lights before your opponent.
Classical fencing sets more store on defense than offense, they frequently still score touches AGAINST. Remember, in a duel it is probably more important to not be hit, yourself, than to hit your opponent.
They eschew orthopedic/pistol grips, whippy blades and electric scoring. They tend to dry fencing with French and Italian grips.
They place much more emphasis on control and good form and mastery of actions. They do not generally fly at each other.
There are a host of errors and over-generalizations in what I just wrote, but it can give you a general idea.
If I understand correctly, I believe Dana Andersen-Wyman at Brazosport College in Lake Jackson teaches an essentially classical foil course.
So you decide for yourself where you fit in. Pick one on the poll and we will see where we are. (Note to the competitive fencers, I did include a place to pick "none.")
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Post by Katman on May 20, 2005 12:50:27 GMT -6
I voted none but I have done some stage combat waaaaaaaaaay back in highschool. Do stylistic dance-fights between the Jets and the Sharks count here? I had a knife.
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Post by schlager7 on Jun 3, 2005 10:20:20 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300]Katman[/glow], you'd have to ask [glow=red,2,300]fightgal[/glow] if that would count. She moderates the stage combat board.
Now I know at least THREE CLFC folks besides myself who do some rapier & dagger. There's a forth I watched last night, but he and [glow=red,2,300]vraptor[/glow] were doing rapier with empty off weapon hand parries. (Quite a special set of moves, that, as well).
[glow=red,2,300]lancer[/glow] has not been on this board in awhile, but he's taught rapier/dagger and (at least once for Maupin and I) rapier and cloak. (If he was still visiting, I'd have included a section for the joust!
[glow=red,2,300]vraptor[/glow] and I have done some broadsword work, arming sword types.
Too bad Witold is not done here anymore, he had a nice repertory of rapier work, very reminiscent of the class [glow=red,2,300]lancer[/glow] taught.
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Post by cfaustus on Mar 1, 2006 12:37:59 GMT -6
Primarilly Classical, but also Historical. I have acted as Sword Master for a student film. On occasion, I amuse myself with sport fencing.
As to one of the prior questions: if you use primarilly modern (Olympic) technique, but use a traditional grip like the Italian, you are simply a modern fencer using a traditional grip. If, however, you have been trained in and use a Traditional or Classical style of fencing, and maintain this use of style/technique in competition, then you are a Traditional/Classical fencer playing the game of sport fencing - regardless of what grip you use (although you will probably be more comfortable using a traditional grip).
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Post by Prudence on Jun 24, 2006 0:27:09 GMT -6
It's official - Augie you rock!
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Post by kd5mdk on Jun 24, 2006 10:49:04 GMT -6
If not a Frank Encounter, because no one was French, the chased guy certainly acted like it.
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