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Post by schlager7 on Sept 2, 2005 8:20:14 GMT -6
Here is an old photo from a year or two back showing Angel Askins and Dakao Do of the Rice Fencing Club demonstrating rapier & dagger fencing. I should add that Dakao is still very involved in historical fencing locally, as part of the Schola St. George: Here is a link to his site: www.scholasaintgeorge.org/houston/index.html
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Post by nemo on Sept 6, 2005 9:58:27 GMT -6
err... are those rubber tips on their swords?
(Where do you get such things?)
Dry rapier & dagger? I guess outside it was too hot for the rapier lame' ?
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Post by schlager7 on Sept 17, 2005 9:42:22 GMT -6
Yes, those ARE ruibber tips on thier weapons. It is used as a safety measure just as the rubber tip on a dry foil or epee is.
In this case what they are using are archery blunts, available at many places that sell gear for bow hunting. Many groups (including the SCA) use them, as do I.
If it is a choreographed piece, I might remove them for the actual show, but only after extensive practice with the blunts and my fencing mask (especially at the beginning when we want to feel free to experiment.)
An aside to Dakao: I guess if I wanted to play the smarta$$ I could adopt a different voice and note that (in the photo) you are parrying with the edge!
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Post by Dakao Do on Feb 20, 2006 17:05:16 GMT -6
A belated follow-up note to anyone who unwittingly reads this thread: we were doing demonstrations of technique and etc., so no one was performing lunges at speed. I would hate for well-meaning fools to imitate us at home. Oh, and BTW, John, if I wanted to be a punk in return, I'd note that my edge is striking the flat of Angel's sword, thus making it definitely not a case of edge on edge parrying (horrors!). However, the Italian masters seem to be rather more reticent about this matter than the modern historical fencing (how's that for a contradiction in terms?) crowd. I've heard a number of instructors say that, really, it don't matter none which bits contact which bits so long as the opponent's dangerous bits are safely carried away from your personal squishy bits. Cheers, Dakao
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Post by schlager7 on Feb 21, 2006 10:12:55 GMT -6
<shock & horror> You mean you didn't parry with the flat!?!?!?! </shock & horror> (Gawd, I'm not sure I'm ready to revive that old debate!) I, for one, do not find this surprising at all. I recall my first class in tactical take downs. After we all had fun bringing each other down with minimal fuss our instructor reminded us that, in the real world, your opponent almost never does exactly what you need them to do to make this work like it did in class. He was right, too! Basically, fencing is defense. The main thing is not to die and not to get hurt. I may damage my blade, but I live. This is not a hard call. Plus, if I win and kill you, I can always take your blade!
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Post by kd5mdk on Feb 21, 2006 15:46:46 GMT -6
Does she have a dagger as well (the hand looks empty, but is partically concealed)
Also, I like the cell phone just above the scabbard.
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Post by schlager7 on Feb 21, 2006 20:13:08 GMT -6
Also, I like the cell phone just above the scabbard. Hey, mon, get with the program! It's the 21st Century! This isn't your father's rapier-&-dagger!
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Post by LongBlade on Feb 21, 2006 23:16:14 GMT -6
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Post by Dakao Do on Feb 22, 2006 18:24:43 GMT -6
Bear in mind this was all a few years back. At the time, I only had 1 rapier and 1 dagger. Angel borrowed my rapier-on-loan and was thus fencing singlesword. I forget why I was ridiculously clad in T-shirt and shorts, but was wearing only one (the wrong one, at that!) riding gauntlet.
Resources have improved substantially since then. I have two complete fencing outfits -- one very dashing period set and one hand-me-down practice set.
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